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BryceTalk Aha! Experiences
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BryceTalk Aha! Experiences, August 10, 01999
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Meta AuntiAlias: sounds cool! did you have a question about that, other than wondering if anyone else does it? (sounds like an aHA to me!) Meta AuntiAlias: DreamVoyager, tell us a bit about the chroma key backgrounds you mentioned a bit ago Jedi-Fist: Dream, I love Premeire for Post-Production, and you are right... doing it that was is too slow. DreamVoyager: It was for a 50 min philosofical TV program I made, called "the Meaning of Life, and other junk" Meta AuntiAlias: is it that RDS will rotoscope an imported movie, Jedi-Fist? (I may work for Meta, but I don't know RDS inside-and-out, sorry!) DreamVoyager: It was based around a discussion between a hypno theraput and a guy known for knowledge on out-of-body / near death experiences Meta AuntiAlias: I know that rotoscoping in Bryce is a rough thing to do (Renato outlined the process for us at our last "newbie" chat a while back. . . . ) CirTap: <-- brb Meta AuntiAlias: DV. . . what exactly is a "chroma key"? DreamVoyager: I enterjected the discussions with a "metaphy7sical reporter" who was filmed against blue, and thereby set into weird Bryce (B12) backgrounds Calyxa: bluescreen, Aunti Meta AuntiAlias: aaah, so this was the substitue for bluescreen? aah, okay DreamVoyager: Chroma Key is the technique of taking one color (chroma) and "key it out" from the picture Meta AuntiAlias: er substitute, I mean! ; ) got it. Thanks! : ) DreamVoyager: so you can put in other picture information where the keyed-out color was usually one used blue screen or green screen Jedi-Fist: Aunti, you got the idea! SunDogDeb: Like the weather people do on tv DreamVoyager: since those colores are easy to key out without disturbing the things you want left in the photo yes, same as the weather reporter Calyxa: I love it when the guy's tie has a color in it that's close enough to the color key to pick up the map... Meta AuntiAlias: got it. Rule on TV+ never wear RGB green clothes if you're standing in front of a green screen! :D SunDogDeb: LOL Meta AuntiAlias: That's my off-topic AHA of the day! :D DreamVoyager: Green (a sharp green) is seldom found in faces, shaddow, cloths, etc, so it is well suited to use as a background color to key out CirTap: *what* means "rotoscoping"?? 3d~?~elf: 'talking heads' Calyxa: creating an animation by tracing a live-action film Meta AuntiAlias: yeah, I used to work at a place that had a green-screen cylcorama backdrop DreamVoyager: I am currently thinking about a music video using the same tecnique Meta AuntiAlias: it's frame-by-frame compositing of some sort, CirTap Meta AuntiAlias: more aha experiences? uses for terrains that are unorthodox? we have terrains as coins, terrains as cell fones... DreamVoyager: The thing you must have in mind when using such techniques is to have the video camera filming the person/s and the "Bryce camera" at same hight and angle 3d~?~elf: as mats DreamVoyager: so you dont mess up perspective CirTap: sh... Calyxa: DV, what sort of scaling do you assume in Bryce for that? Meta AuntiAlias: I think that last time this topic came up someone had used terrains as clouds.... CirTap: thanx Ladies: @-->->-->--- DreamVoyager: tried that... :-/ LOL can be a cool surreal effect Meta AuntiAlias: have seen clouds (with clipping)... set on the ground for up in the air clouds, or upright in the backgrtound for surrealistic puffy clouds. . . . Calyxa: speaking of scale, that was sort of an aha for me... the concept of "pick a scale and build to it" rather than just throwing things in until they "look right" Meta AuntiAlias: dang, don't remember the image I saw, but it was way cool! DreamVoyager: Scling? Hummm... dont know... I just did what my eye and instict told me, kClyxa... sorry... thats how I work... mostly by intuition Meta AuntiAlias: tell us a bit more, Caly.... when you pick a scale, what are you thinking about? Calyxa: a lot of my recent works have been built to the scale of 1 bryce unit equals one inch. so, I'll put the camera at 60 BU's above the "ground" (whatever it lands on) actually, I approximate... land the camera, then hit 'page up' 10 times... http://www.best.com/~calyxa/pearl/newinchland.html is one example CirTap: ? Calyxa: here's that cloud tutorial you were talking about, Aunti - http://www.ilhawaii.net/~zobe/tut.html Gigabyte saunters in. Gigabyte: hi Jedi-Fist: Cir, did anyone explain Rotoscoping? Gigabyte: is this event still going? CirTap: yes, Jedi i have a question about BUs... Calyxa: go ahead CirTap: beside working with the arrow-keys, pg-up/down... are they used somewhere in the dialog-boxes *direktly* e.g. move 1 BU Calyxa: yes, in the object attributes box. also in the multireplicate dialog... CirTap: wich equals 2048 or 20.48 can i enter 1 and it moves ONE BU? Heather disappears in a blinding flash of smoke. Calyxa: in my scaling system, the default size of 20.48 is approx 20 1/2 inches. Tonebone: Evenin all, just passing and thought I'd drop in :) CirTap: i know u can shift-click/drag everywhere to scale *interactive*.... Calyxa: but yes, in the object attributes dialog, you can change the value of the location of the origin of an object... Meta AuntiAlias is off to save the world. CirTap: in BU or by calculation 2048 / whatever ? Jedi-Fist: Is Aunti leaving? I had another question Tonebone: Was it me? renato!: perhaps she locked up SunDogDeb: She'll prob be back renato!: in fact I bet she did rebooting well till then, free for all! hehehehe SunDogDeb: LOL Calyxa: the units used in the object attributes dialog are BUs... the 20.48 is an _arbitrary_ size for newly-created objects. Gigabyte: anyone want to see something really funny? CirTap: ?? it says 20.48 not "1" i know that IS a BU Gigabyte: humor to mac users Calyxa: no, it's 20.48 BUs. DreamVoyager: (Sure, Gb) Gigabyte: www.futurepowerusa.com
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