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BryceTalk Current Project Discussion
June 8, 1999
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BryceTalk Tuesday Current Project Discussion,
June 8, 1999

Schbeurd: Hi AuntiAlias, back from vacation ?

AuntiAlias: well, not exactly... but I didn't know who was gonna help host today's chat, so I pulled the chair up in front o da computer

Schbeurd: Very good idea !!!

AuntiAlias: and... fooey... I've fallen ill too.... much easier to type than to talk : (

How are you all this fine evening? ; )

Schbeurd: Not too bad;;;

AuntiAlias: I'm kinda curious... how'd you know I'm on vacation? (I don't recall announcing anything to the effect)

brb.. (I'm going to go get a cup to hold the tea that's been brewing here)

Schbeurd: Metajohn couldn't keep the news for himself

AuntiAlias: Hey John!

MetaJohn: Hi there!

AuntiAlias: cool! You gonna host this?

Schbeurd: Just mute that awful "Boiing"

AuntiAlias: If so, I might lurk for a bit...

MetaJohn: I wondered

Schbeurd: Hi John

MetaJohn: Hi Schb

AuntiAlias: but I fell ill late last night (dang! second year in a row that I've fallen ill on my birthday! hm!)

MetaJohn: Happy birthday!!!

Schbeurd: Happy birthday !!!

AuntiAlias: so -- it's easier to type than it is to talk... (what a mercy!)

Thanks! :D

MetaJohn: That was yesterday, right?

AuntiAlias: yes

tho I'm celebrating it all week

MetaJohn: How was the dancing?

AuntiAlias: tho falling ill means that it'll be a quiet celebration : )

it was great!

Schbeurd: Hi DreamVoyager

DreamVoyager: Hello Denis, Schbeurd, Auntie and MJohn

MetaJohn: Heard about your combined party

Hi Dream

Back to bryce

AuntiAlias: combined party?

DreamVoyager: Ill be to and fro of my puter a while... dinner going on

MetaJohn: What is our topic for the day?

AuntiAlias: you sayin' you wanna shift the conversation to Bryce?

AuntiAlias: Well, re: topic... I'd say choose one!

MetaJohn: why not?

Schbeurd: Good question John

AuntiAlias: sorry, I didn't have time to arrange a guest for this week (my apologies)

so...

we can discuss tips and tricks

or dicsuss current projects we're working on

challenges and problems...

MetaJohn: Well Sch, we seem to be on line together a lot, what would you like to talk about

AuntiAlias: and perhaps lend one another help and suggestions and tips

KathG: hi all

AuntiAlias: Greets, KathG

Schbeurd: Difficult to answer immediately, we already talked about the wish list yesterday !

MetaJohn: This is an offer we can not refuse! As you probably know Aunti Alias is the author of The Real World bryce books!

Schbeurd: Hi KathG

MetaJohn: Yes the wish list is probably full

Hi Kath

KathG: Hi

What is the offer :)

MetaJohn: Hi Ringo

Ringo: Hi, everyone!

AuntiAlias: I did create another room... tho I figure that we won't have tons of folks; shall we simply hold the discussion in here?

Schbeurd: By the way, John what about Radiosity (for interior scenes)

MetaJohn: Difficult one Sch

Ringo: Susan, you're back!

Schbeurd: Hi Ringo

AuntiAlias: <---turns around to show back to computer

oh! not *that* back... Ok, ok, I get it! : )

KathG: <g>

MetaJohn: We alkl missed you!

all

AuntiAlias: : ) awwww, that's sweet!

so....

two questions lie before us-- one immediate (shall we just meet in here, or in another room) ...

MetaJohn: Aunti, I have been talking to people "down under" they want therir own Bryce Talk

In here

AuntiAlias: and one that can meander (what will our topic be for this time)

Denis: Hi all.Anyone got any ideas why my Mac keeps shutting down,after about a minute when I open Bryce 4

MetaJohn: Denis, is it only with bryce?

AuntiAlias: let's discuss that later on this week, John. I'm still technically on vacation, and am here just for this event since I wanted to be present for the second one!

Denis: yes

Schbeurd: I got Bryce 4 since 2 weeks or so, still discovering the new features.

AuntiAlias: Denis, is there anything in particular that you are doing just before the shut down?

also... what OS are you using?

MetaJohn: Hi Gadget

I doubt that it is Bryce related, but maybe you can email me detail, such as system config, processor and messages etc.

Gadget: Hiya

Schbeurd: Hi Gadget

AuntiAlias: and how much memory you have, too...

Greets, Gadget!

Gadget: allo.

Anon: Do you use QuickKeys?

AuntiAlias: (I love that nickname!)

Gadget: Ditto

Anon: Denis?

Denis: no. Just creating a landscape....I'm using O.S. 8.6

Gadget: What's the topic tonight?

AuntiAlias: Well....

we get to choose tonight's topic

Gadget: hmmm....

er....

MetaJohn: Do you get any error message Denis?

AuntiAlias: it can be: tips and tricks, Q & A, discuss what project you're working on in Bryce and then we help one antoher with suggestions (if requested)

MetaJohn: Sounds like a winner Susan

AuntiAlias: or a combination of all three..... : )

Schbeurd: Topic, topic, topic......

Gadget: k

Denis: non. The screen goes black and I have to reboot

AuntiAlias: So... I dont' think that it's necessary to go to protocol ...

Gadget: gotcha

AuntiAlias: who'd like to open it by telling us about the current bryce project you're working on?

MetaJohn: Susan, You want to describe Roberts camera arm?

AuntiAlias: I can do that, sure... but I'd like to open it in th emanner I just typed, first! : )

MetaJohn: fine

Gadget: I'm not at the moment.

Beartrap: hi all

MetaJohn: At last Hi Bear

Gadget: Hi

Schbeurd: Hi Beartrap

Ringo: hi, Bear.

KathG: OT ? Had a problem with viewing Metastream content on the web yesterday. All I got was the Red X. I re-installed but still know go. I ended up having to delete all references to it in the registry and then re-installed before it would work.

AuntiAlias: Anybody have a Bryce project going on at the moment?

greets, Beartrap, Arby!

KathG: Anyone any ideas why this would happen. I had not changed anything


 

 

MetaJohn: No idea Kath

KathG: :)

AuntiAlias: and.... KathG, I don't know what to tell you about the metastream.. sowwy!

KathG: Hi Beartrap

Arby: hi everyone

Gadget: Hi arby

Schbeurd: Hi Arby

MetaJohn: Arby

KathG: OK no problem it is working again now :)

DreamVoyager: back. Hi all who have entered sinc eI was last here :-)

jeon: hi.. many friends..

Schbeurd: HI jeon. Insomny again ?

Gadget: ho Jaon

MetaJohn: No one with Bryce type questions?

DreamVoyager: Yes, AA... I ALWAYS have Bryce projects going on... :-)

MetaJohn: Hi Jeon

Gadget: that was a mess....

AuntiAlias: Tell us about your current one.... what you're doing.. any challenges you're encountering with this one : )

DreamVoyager: Yes, I met an anomaly the other day... I made a light (spot), copied it, changed the copy to a bulb, repositioned it, did a new copy of that one, repositioned it as well... then when I moved the timeline, all fell back into the position of the original..

AuntiAlias: hmmm... I've seen that one before too, with some things where items are copied from one scene to the other....

DreamVoyager: I had set key frames to the new lights... but to no avail... for a oong time... I had to do some heavy re-timelining to get things positioned and STAYing positioned

AuntiAlias: is the scene you are working on an animation, or did the timeline just happen to accidentally record a keyframe for something?

DreamVoyager: It was the same scene

AuntiAlias: also items copied and pasted in the same scene

DreamVoyager: Im making a lighting project, inspired by a japanese Shinto garden.

AuntiAlias: cool!

Anon: When will the patch be out for Bryce 4?

AuntiAlias: DV: "I had set key frames to the new lights... but to no avail..." could you tell us a bit more what you mean by that?

DreamVoyager: its an animation... the lights go on and off at various intervalls

AuntiAlias: so how'd you solve it?

MetaJohn: Very soon Anon

Darreng: hi all

DreamVoyager: When I had copy/pasted the light, changed it into a bulb, I repositioned it, and gave it a keyframe.

jeon: http://www.ip.co.kr/mynewimage.jpg is my new bryce image.

DreamVoyager: Hi Darreng

Schbeurd: Hi Darreng

jeon: hi.Darreng

Arby: yes I have one, there was a recent thread on the list re: greyscale levels in the TE. It was rumoured in B2 that it was better to cut n paste into the TE rather than use the 'picture' button. Does this still hold with B4? I for one cannot see a difference.

hi dannen

AuntiAlias: so giving it a keyframe solved the problem? I figure that clearing all keys for that particular object might also solve it

KathG: Looks great jeon :)

DreamVoyager: I ksolved it by painstakingly removing all keyframes from all lights and redoing the keyframes

AuntiAlias: you can clear keyframes in the AML by selecting the little white bar and then deleting it

Darreng: Are you going to the Bryce get together Bob?

jeon: thanks..KathG

MetaJohn: What a drag

AuntiAlias: I've got a couple of theories about lights, keyframes and all that...

Arby: not this time around Darren.

AuntiAlias: when modeling the scene, switch Auto Key off

jeon: today.. brycetalk is very cool..nice..

AuntiAlias: and then when animating, put it on again

MetaJohn: Why Susan?

DreamVoyager: No... giving it a keyframe did not solve the problem, for as soon as I moved the timeline the lights jumped back to the original objects position and refused to further acknowledge the keyframe position I gave it... but deleating ALL keyframes of ALL ...

...lihts solved it.

AuntiAlias: well, for some reason, if a key is recorded for an object at 00.00 and the object is duplicated at ....

what Dream Voyager said! : )

keyboard short cut to remove all keys:

DreamVoyager: I did that the first day... ;-) AutoKey is no fun...

AuntiAlias: this is the mac one:

command optioons, control shift and then click the remove keyframe (minus) button

windows would be control, alt shift and click remove keyframe button, I'd imagine.....

dont' know if the windows button needs to be pressed or not...

but it probably wouldn't hurt to press it, too

MetaJohn: Back from Bryce, yes it is

MetaJohn: on Windows

george: it's a party!

MetaJohn: Hi george

Gadget: hi george

Schbeurd: Hi george

jeon: Hi george

george: Hello everyone!

Anon: Hiya G

george: wow!

AuntiAlias: yep! It's Tuesday evening in Europe!! So we're talking here!

Darreng: hello

george: I hear an echo

sorry!

Anon: The regular event

AuntiAlias: there was another comment made a while back...

george: i'll be good n quite

DreamVoyager: Thanks! Iv had a hastle with finding how to remove all keyframes! (I know I should digest the copulating instructions, but I have lent it to a friend, hoping to inspire him to get B4)

AuntiAlias: let me go and copy and paste it

Darreng: what are we talking about AA?

george: good n quiet even

AuntiAlias: lol re: copulating! ; )

george: lol

Gadget: lol

AuntiAlias: Darreng, it's a combo of tips/tricks, Q & A and discussion of current projects (and challenges and new findings)

DreamVoyager: (sounds nicer than RTFM)

AuntiAlias: here's one that Arby posted a bit ago:

Arby: yes I have one, there was a recent thread on the list re: greyscale levels in the TE. It was rumoured in B2 that it was better to cut n paste into the TE rather than use the 'picture' button. Does this still hold with B4? I for one cannot see a diffe

Darreng: He asked me that two weeks ago...

AuntiAlias: difference

MetaJohn: That was prompted by you george, I believe

AuntiAlias: so far as I know.... you can copy and paste directly using key commands and all is well

Arby: never got an answer ...did I?

AuntiAlias: I have noticed the followign at Bryce camp, tho

DreamVoyager: (who could guess that of George?) :-)

george: Aha

Darreng: lol

sorry Bob...

I didn't know but when I tried it out... there didn't seem to be much of a difference...

AuntiAlias: if you are working in Photoshop or another image app to create or work on a grayscale image....

and you're working using Windows OS

MetaJohn: Same levels of gray etc which ever way you do it

george: My guess is that that rumor has something to do with the number of levels that other editing apps can handle

AuntiAlias: you may need to change your image to RGB, even tho all the image information is grayscale

Darreng: yes... it seemed the same

AuntiAlias: in order for it to properly paste to Bryce's terrain editor

Darreng: right

Arby: John, will MC be exhibiting at any UK graphic shows? there is usually a largish ( for here ) one in London around November time.

MetaJohn: But Bryce has its internal limitation george

george: Yeah....it seems like there was a kernal of truthto that rumor but not much of onw...

AuntiAlias: also

Darreng: what a faff!!

MetaJohn: I think so Arby, I will find out

 

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