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BryceAnimation, April 22, 1999Brand new room! vincehardy saunters in. vincehardy: ok got it Rodney has just entered. Rodney: Howdy, y'all! vincehardy: hi again rodney Rodney: No, "hi" still vincehardy: ok ok did you had a chance to take a look at my animation mr. stickman? Rodney: As in "I'm..." and "You're..."? I confess, I haven't. The mail is still bookmarked but this has been the week from ,,, y'know,, thge bad place vincehardy: no problem Suddenly Jeffric appears. gdmsynth has joined the party! Rodney: Hmmmm..... elipses with commas... might be a new trend vincehardy: I've made a new animation since though RayDeX saunters in. Mindscenes materializes from thin air. Rodney: What of? RayDeX: well vincehardy: http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/seurat/48/clip7.html gdmsynth: Can anyone tell me how to make water move in an animation other than by animating terrains? Is there a better way? Suddenly xochi appears. xochi: hey everyone... Rodney: Gd, animate the texture. Clay wants to play too. AuntiAlias: While you are waiting for the Animation Discussion to begin, do check out the web site for some animations that Rodney has done. http://www5.metacreations.com/products/bryce4/talk/events.cfm Rodney: The water in the Meridian21 sample animation is just a watereplane with a diagonal horizontal mobve to the texture. Clay: Hi guys nice animation tests Rodney vincehardy: right nice Rodney: Thanks, Clay. Although Bill Ellsworth had a big part in them Clay: cool! gdmsynth: What do you mean mobve to the texture? Rodney: mobve= move Bob Van Ess has joined the party! Clay: hi Bob Bob Van Ess: hi Clay vincehardy: hi bob Bob Van Ess: vince I got the anims up gdmsynth: You are just moving it on the x or y axis? We didn't have good luck with this. We want ocean waves that rock n roll Clay: show the toast Bob heheh Rodney: In the materials lab, click on the little edit button for the component and move the texture. Ocean waves = terrain morphs. Bob Van Ess: http://members.aol.com/tedmunroe/Bryce/toast.html Clay: ya gotta love itLOL gdmsynth: Yeah... I was hoping someone had discovered another way. Any B5 beta testers wanna comment? Ringo has finally arrived. Clay: hi ringo Ringo: Hello, everyone. Rodney! the animation master. Giles has joined the party! Rodney: Although, you can do a lot with moving the floating objects. Look at my channel marker anim on the 2nd Bryce 4 CD Clay: hi giles The Smoking Man wants to play too. vincehardy: Bob strikes again AWSOME!!!! Giles: hey clay :) Rodney: Hi, Ringo. Clay: smokin man! The Smoking Man: 'sup RayDeX: Well too bad I can`t show you our movie ;( It`s not up the web yet. gdmsynth: Thanks Rodney, I'll check it out. Did you use the same technique? AuntiAlias: Rodney... just to get things straight beforehand Mindscenes slinks out. Bob Van Ess: http://members.aol.com/tedmunroe/Bryce/islandrun.html Rodney: If you really watch it you'll see that the water doesn't really move but the marker bouy is rolling and sorta fools the eye. AuntiAlias: Im gonna give you and Robert the floor at the outset to talk about whatever it is you want to talk about THEN zman52 wants to play too. renato! has joined the party! renato!: hey rodney AuntiAlias: I'll have you guys take questions Rodney: yo, ren! renato!: I'm breathless with anticipation! gdmsynth: Yes thats what I remember but it also was sort of dark wasn't it. Optical illusions are great tools for 3D. Rodney: Okey and dokey, Anti. Where is Master Bailey? beowulf materializes from thin air. Clay: hi beo beowulf: hello gdmsynth: OK here's another easy question: How can you make objects disappear completely in an animation? Rodney: Yeah, gd, I don't know why that one enfded up so dark. My monitor must've been way off when I set up the render and it had to be sent as soon as it finished. gdmsynth: I wish I could make objects exist only for a segment of time as with After Effects. But the illusion was effective. Hanover has just entered. Rodney: gd, does setting the attribute to hide from one keyframe to another work? AuntiAlias: While you are waiting for the Animation Discussion to begin, do check out the web site for some animations that Rodney has done. http://www5.metacreations.com/products/bryce4/talk/events.cfm Clay: hi han vincehardy: Pretty cool Bob!!! I love these new animations Hanover: hi gdmsynth: I'll give it a try. I'm actually new to Bryce but diving in on the deep end with a video animation project. Bob Van Ess: thanks vince..as with you these are just little clips of a bigger anim AuntiAlias: Rodney, re: Mr. Bailey.. he's in "The War Room"... I saw him earlier today... Hanover is off to see the Wizard. AuntiAlias: will go and check on him... vincehardy: Bob: planning on putting a big one on your site at some point? Suddenly oblio appears. vincehardy: talking about the new ones... Clay: hi ob Rodney: OK, Susan lharriet has just entered. Clay: hi IH Hanover has just entered. RayDeX: http://www.eosoffice.com/artwork/artwork_3d_01.html gdmsynth: Does anyone else want suspended/resume rendering? Rodney: Ray, are those spaces in that URL? gdmsynth: This way you can use your computer in the day and render animations at night. Baument saunters in. Rodney: gd, suspend/resume works great in B4 gdmsynth: How? Rodney: Meridian 21 was rendered in 4 pieces. Kikuchiyo has finally arrived. Ringo: animating sky setting say going from the starfield settings from the sky library to "armageddon sunset" can that be done? gdmsynth: You can only temporarily suspend. Not as with Strata Studio Pro where you can quite the program altogether and pick it up later. Reflash has just entered. Rodney: Just stop the render, save the scene. When you reopen, hit File:Render Animation. Bryce defaults to starting from the current frame Meta Robert materializes from thin air. gdmsynth: Wow! Brian of Metacreations told me it couldn't be done. Meta Robert: Hey all... gdmsynth: I'll give your idea a try. Rodney, you've already answered ALL of my questions! Rodney: One caveat. It only works if you're rendering to sequential images. Bob Van Ess: I'm going to redo an anim online called "in search of" vince... it's pretty long now as it was compressed with QT2 looks fuzzy and is 1.4 megs gdmsynth: I'll have to thunk up some more....... Danny has finally arrived. Rodney: Of course, if you're not rendering tom sequential images anyway, nothing can help you. Clay: hi dan Danny: Hi Clay xochi has more important business elsewhere. RayDeX: I got to get moving. Some more layouts in Quark are waiting for me. ;( Rodney: You're darned to power outage heck for all time by Bob the Dragon gdmsynth: What do you mean sequential images? RayDeX: Too bad vincehardy: Bob: let me know when it's ready.. AuntiAlias: Mister Bailey is here! :D Rodney: On a Mac: render to sequential pict files Bob Van Ess: will do Meta Robert: Hello Folks! Rodney: On Windows: render to sequential BMPs RayDeX is off to render mirrored spheres. AuntiAlias: Tip!! Highlight speakers with different colors to help you track who is saying what. (the people list allows you to change colors--Upper left side, 2nd Green button) gdmsynth: Oh I see, as opposed to rendering as an animation file? vincehardy: hi robert Meta Robert: How's it going rodney.. Long time no see... gdmsynth: A sequential series of pict files eh? Rodney: NEVER ever render to an AVI or a Quicktime. Hi, Robert! gdmsynth: Why? justin has just entered. Bob Van Ess: I did a moviwe in a movie using sequential picts M'Kell materializes from thin air. Rodney: If there's any gl;itch you're stuck with it. rgross has finally arrived. vincehardy: Hi mike stiffkat has just entered. M'Kell: Hello everyone... Rodney: If power fails you lose the whole thing. rgross: hi all M'Kell: Heya vince. Suddenly slareau appears. Rodney: Can't stop ansd start gdmsynth: Yeah after several days rendering that could be a drag. stiffkat: hey everyone M'Kell: Steve.. how are y? Rodney: Need any more reasons? justin: raise your hands! slareau: Hey gang! Rodney- nice to see ya! AuntiAlias: While you are waiting for the Animation Discussion to begin, do check out the web site for some animations that Rodney has done. http://www5.metacreations.com/products/bryce4/talk/events.cfm Look for the link under Logs. You'll see movies. stiffkat: steve! I just knew you'd be here LOL Jeffric: hiya Steve Rodney: Steve! Howzit bean, kid? gdmsynth: How do you keep track of the pict sequences. Are they all numbered? slareau: And wanna hear some cool news? KK is gone from the list! GreG has just entered. Kevin saunters in. M'Kell: You don't think he could stay away do you? GreG: hallo Kevin: hey all stiffkat: how'd that happen? M'Kell: Heya GreG GreG disappears in a blinding flash of smoke. Meta Robert: dgmsynth, the pict seqs are numbered M'Kell: see ya GreG GreG has just entered. The Smoking Man: When will the full movie be finished? Rodney: Tell gdsynth how much better rendering to pictures is than rendering to an AVI gdmsynth: What about when you start a new sequence, can you start renumbering picts? GreG: M'Kell hallo. ricster41 wants to play too. Suddenly Zaphod appears. justin: wha who!! lotsa people,,,this outa be fun! stiffkat: too neat :) Meta Robert: How many folks in here started with Bryce1? M'Kell: I'm gonna be quiet here.. going for my tea.. :) GreG: Cactus man HA HA HA slareau: Yeah, rendering to frames is THE way to go. Take MY word for it of no one else! Kevin: bryce 2 here rgross: Bryce 1 justin: hehehe ricster41: bryce2 vincehardy: Bryce 3 here The Smoking Man: Bryce 3 Reflash: 2 beowulf: bryce2 GreG: Bryce4 = ) justin: maybe that should be my new nick? stiffkat: bryce 3 Kikuchiyo: B1 justin: b4 Suddenly Slee appears. justin: hehe Rodney: Beta 4 Robert. Before David started doing the outer space stuff and was still doing BWs of his girlfriend. slareau: B2 Bob Van Ess: B1 GreG: kevin so you looking for a job? Meta Robert: Cool, so we got old schoolers and new alike... nice crowd rgross: lol rodney I remember those days Suddenly Bryguy appears. gdmsynth: B3d slareau: <-old fart Kevin: not at the moment, are you hiring? justin: hehe GreG: it depends really stiffkat: LOL 1rst through 12th grade Zaphod slinks out. justin: i need a real job! Rodney: I think David Palermo was the first person to really explore Black and White Brycing. M'Kell: Back (_|_) justin: cactus hunting just isn't cutting it! Kevin: e-mail me sometime at kmorris@ascencon.com Greg slareau: <-will render for cpu ugrade GreG: I have to see how the company does for the first few months Danny: You are'nt even gonna say hello to me (Sniff sniff) steve RG digital wants to play too. stiffkat: LOL steve ya nut justin: wa wa wa M'Kell: I thought you needed clothes Steve.. :) RG digital: Hello everybody!! slareau: Ahh, Danny- sorry, this is scolling too fast! Jeffric: hello Rodney: Why would Steve need clothes? slareau: Who says? LOL! justin: rg is here! let the festivities begin! Danny: Did ya see Kari"s post ? M'Kell: He bryces nekkid GreG: ok I I decided to go with flash I will drop you a line Rodney: What would he DO with them?> slareau: Rodney- if ya don't know, do't ask! GreG: if Rodney: Clean his monitor screen? Kevin: ok stiffkat: I'm brycin' in pj's! ;P GreG: So do you do alot of 3d? slareau: yup gdmsynth: Anyone else creating video with Bryce? Danny: I wear Fuzzy Eeyore slippers vincehardy: yes M'Kell: Here Kevin: Some, still want to learn more. You can see my personal site at http://www.ramsfootball.com/art,htm mhough wants to play too. slareau: Getting there slowly but surely. AuntiAlias: Tip!! Highlight speakers with different colors to help you track who is saying what. (the people list allows you to change colors--Upper left side, 2nd Green button) stiffkat: steve renders so much his eyes reflect terrains in daylight LOL justin: okay,,,how many of you are from outa-town? RG digital: Yes, I have gigs of animations!! Clark/CDS wants to play too. Rodney: I've heard of some crazy folks doing video with Bryce... GreG: Got a error site not found slareau: I got smart Rodney- I have people rendering FOR me! LOL! Meta Robert: Rodney, who would those crazy folks be??? Lol Reflash: what town? RG digital disappears in a blinding flash of smoke. RG digital has joined the party! GreG: ok renato!: you gotta be crazy to do video gdmsynth: So tell me about your experiences. I'm beginning to feel like I getting into deep water creating videos with Bryce. renato!: that's wy they call us vidiots why GreG: . was a , justin: thats where the $ are! slareau: M'kell- how many minutes of animation are we up to now, you know? RG digital: It takes a lot of patience Kevin: try this http://www.ramsfootball.com/art.htm greg Rodney: gd, you ain't never seen water that deep. Kevin: stupid comma justin: dohhh! M'Kell: Somewhere nere 120 The Smoking Man: east coast Rodney: Jim Cameron type deeep water gdmsynth: I know! That's what I'm feeling. So tell me it ain't so......PLEEEESE stiffkat: LOL kev, I do that too AuntiAlias: is it time yet? Kevin: fat fingers Danny: It is ytoime M'Kell: 5 minutes Susan gdmsynth: 120 minutes! WWOW Danny: time AuntiAlias: My watch says 5 till, this comptuer says 3 after, and the other one says 3 till stiffkat: I got 9P straight up slareau: 120 minutes?!? You been ren=dering behind my back or something? gdmsynth: GO justin: we don't need no stinking time M'Kell: LOL Rodney: We're shooting for a minute a month per render machine for Infinity's Child. justin: hehe M'Kell: hehehehehe AuntiAlias: While you are waiting for the Animation Discussion to begin, do check out the web site for some animations that Rodney has done. http://www5.metacreations.com/products/bryce4/talk/events.cfm RG digital: Can you give us some details on your new Bryce project, Rodney? Meta Robert: Average it out Susan :) GreG: ok nice AuntiAlias: Welcome to BryceTalk animation night. Tonight our special guests are Rodney L'Ongnion (Rodney) and Robert Bailey. (Meta Robert) We'll be doing this in two parts.. First, We'll have Rodney and Robert tell you their tips and perspectives on animation in Bryce... Then we'll take Q&A so.... gdmsynth: A minute per month. Are you using all the footage? AuntiAlias: to begin with gdmsynth: What is the S/N ratio? JeffP materializes from thin air. M'Kell: shhhhhhhhhhhhhh AuntiAlias: let's start with tips from Rodney and Robert Who'd like to go first? : ) justin: clap clap Meta Robert: You first Rodney :) Rodney: I'll go because I only have 2 tips. First tip. Always render to a sequence of frames. slareau: RG digital: doh! Rodney: There is no downside to this. AuntiAlias: frames? do you mean images? like pict or bmp? justin: wow Rodney: You can compress these frames to any codec you want after vthey're all rendered. Meta Robert: Agreed Rodney gdmsynth: Same with animation isn't it? Lossless Rodney: Bryce 4 has flawlessly restarted interrupted animations this way on several occaisions. Bob Van Ess: what about renduring a QT mov w/ no compression robokoneko has finally arrived. justin: why can't it render to tif format w/alpha? AuntiAlias: just for sanity's sake... we'll take questions in a bit Rodney: If you render a movie... any power accident trashes the whole thing. justin: whoops,,n ? yet AuntiAlias: let em tell you their stuff justin: k Rodney: Even if you're on frame 1799 of 1800. AuntiAlias: mebbe the next line that's being typed is an answer to your question! ; ) gdmsynth: How do you restart in the middle of a sequence? Do you tell it what number pict to start on or what? GreG: I got a big gen Fualt error when I tried to render to Qt JWalk saunters in. M'Kell: shhhhhhhhhhhh Carthach has joined the party! Rodney: OK, a lot of folks have asked about the restart thing. Clay: hi carth AuntiAlias: welcome! Rodney has the floor! Carthach: Hey Clay GreG is off to render mirrored spheres. Rodney: I do this a lot. Just stop the rendering and save the Bryce svcene. Suddenly tommy appears. tuckersaur has finally arrived. gdmsynth: How do you restart? ccasady wants to play too. Rodney: When you reopen Bryce and hit file:render animation it defaults to the current frame, the one where you stipped. gdmsynth: Are they numbered? aeryn wants to play too. Bob Van Ess: great tip! justin: q&a are after the tips people! Rodney: The Meridian21 test render was stopped three times. It's from 4 different Bryce rendering sessions. tuckersaur slinks out. tuckersaur has finally arrived. Rodney: The babelesque test was rendered on TWO DIFFERENT MACHINES. You can't do that when you render to an AVI or a MooV Tip number two. gdmsynth: What about assembling in AE for example. Pegasus has finally arrived. AuntiAlias: Welcome! Rodney's got the floor. Q& A to follow after both he and Robert have shared their tips Rodney: The two little buttons to the left of the big render ball... use them. justin: yea,,gdmsynth xochi has joined the party! Rodney: Test your animation at third or half size with fast erender and textures off. You'll see all kinds of stuff you will foix when you only have an hour or so invested instead of after a five day render. That's pretty much the secrets. Talent and experience helps lots . AuntiAlias: Rodney, would you describe for us how you go about setting up an animation motion test? Rodney: Sure. |
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