BryceTalk Housewarming, April 6, 1999
part 4
Bob Van Ess: Here's an old Bryce 1.0 pict
http://members.aol.com/slpryfox/DrBob/bluprl.html
Clem: Aunti, is there any way to decrease the file size of the movie files?
Bryguy: mmm thats good too
sepapu: what's that in my hand? Oh that's just Ninja dust! ***pooof***
Blade_VI: bryce 1!!!
AuntiAlias: yeah. check out www.codeccentral.com for all sortsa info about that
Blade_VI: hey, how did those others put it?
oh yah
dinosaur
Trimax: bbl
AuntiAlias: the art of compression is a great thing
Clem: Thanks
AuntiAlias: or www.terraninteractive.com
Trimax has left the building.
Dally has left the building.
AuntiAlias: but!
Bryguy: hey blade it had to start somewhere
Blade_VI: yup:)
rgross materializes from thin air.
danster: where is carpenteria anyway?
Dr. Mojo: Hey, how many of you actually use the Deep Texture Editor? I'm curious, as I want to revise it totally.
jooves: hi all, I noticed a bunch of conixopengl stuff in my extensions folder on my mac. Is that stuff presently of use to me?
sepapu is off to save the world.
renato!: i use it but would not consider myself an expert user
AuntiAlias: when you render, be sure to to save at full resolution
Dr. Mojo: Carp is near to Santa Barabara.
Calyxa: I've got a couple old Bryce 1 pix - http://www.best.com/~calyxa/pearl/spacep.html
rgross: DTE you bet!!!
danster: deep texture editor is toooo difficult
renato!: however I am anxious to learn a lot more
Calyxa: I use the DTE
AuntiAlias: then make smaleer compressed copies elsewhere
Blade_VI: fortuanately, we know how these dinosaurs were really wiped out to extinction so that only artafacts remain
Beartrap: DTE? I practically live there :)
Bryguy: i use it sometimes but not too much
Blade_VI: bryce 2 came alon
Calyxa: or at least I flail around with it.
renato!: digital artifacts?
digital dinosaur artifacts?
sbaty: DTE? Often!
Dr. Mojo: I would guess it's too much for most users.
Calyxa: Deep Texture Editor
Blade_VI: wonder how the interface on the first is like
I've never seent he first
Pyewacket: use DTE most of the time
Blade_VI: I started with the second
Calyxa: hidden and cryptic.
Bob Van Ess: that was a nice Bryce 1.0 pict Calyxa
Calyxa: thanks.
Bryguy: i only use it when i can't get the texture right otherwise
renato!: what would you revise Mojo? if you can divulge...
Dr. Mojo: Sounds like lots of you use the DTE. But then, I'm "talking" to the choir, I suppose.
jspirko: I'm using it a lot more now.
Blade_VI: DTE?
was DTE?
Grog has left the building.
Blade_VI: a file type?
Calyxa: DTE == Deep Texture Editor
Blade_VI: oh
Clem: If you do, Mojo, please explain how to use it to create textures on a step by step basis, explaining what effect each component has on the overall texture. Use lots of pictures (please)
Blade_VI: that thingy
Dr. Mojo: I may revise *everything*. It can be made simpler, more intuitive, and far more powerful, I think.
renato!: more intuitive would be good
Dr. Mojo: Bet I mess up on teh "simpler" part, though. ;^)
sbaty: Mojo, improve the access to the preset material pieces - bumps, etc. They are far too hidden and that list thingy is weird.
AuntiAlias: hee!
renato!: it can be grokked but it takes left-brain power
...imvho...
flance has joined the party!
Blade_VI: gee
abbrev. are so hard to understand
AuntiAlias: who was it that said that visual artists also have a love for trigonmetric functions
Blade_VI: narf!
I like the terrain editor
Bryguy: poit!
Blade_VI: that think is neat
Calyxa: egad
Dr. Mojo: If you have a specific suggestion, we'd like to hear it. It's hard to come up with good ideas for UI design.
sbaty: I did n't but I agree. 3D trig! mmmm......
Beartrap: I'd like to have noise, phase and filter dialogues all open at once
Blade_VI: I turned all my hand drawen art into mountains with the terrain editor
AuntiAlias: weren't trigs those characters in StarTrek?
tiger: What's MetaCreations' relationship with Eric Wenger these days? I know he's founded U&I... and has some Bryce related stuff - does he work with you all on any aspects of Bryce anymore?
Blade_VI: SO GROOVY!
BobPenner disappears in a blinding flash of smoke.
MetaJohn: Bear email me with requests please
renato!: the trouble with triggles
jplapointe has more important business elsewhere.
Beartrap: you'll regret it :)
MetaJohn: jfeld@metacreations.com
sbaty: No trigs were in Dr Who ;-)
Dr. Mojo: Eric isn't working on Bryce any more.
ahole saunters in.
Bodhran is off to render mirrored spheres.
Beartrap: gotcha
renato!: trigger 'nam, a tree!
Bryguy: i'd like to import my own textures in to the dte
Blade_VI: I read somewhere, (the manual, I think ) that bryce shoots rays out into the scene to determine the color of each pizer. I find that slightly...disconcerting.
Clem: If anyone thinks about creating tutorial on B$ for the rest of us please try to keep in mind that there are those of us who are left brained by necessity, not by choice
Blade_VI: er
pixel
Dr. Mojo: So, all you DTE-heads, I wanna see you flail away at the new noises.
Calyxa: I have been - mostly trying for good clouds.
Blade_VI: ...
ah dang
I think my cerebrum just fused
Clem: oops B$ =B4
Beartrap: left brain right brain - which is which?
Bob Van Ess is off to save the world.
Blade_VI: and everyone is typing slower
I need more caffiene
Dr. Mojo: Try building a fractal out of Voronoi Distance1 for clouds. There are such clouds in teh last new sky presets.
MetaJohn: Many people in the Q&A room now
Dr. Mojo has more important business elsewhere.
Danny: Yep
Meta Hawk: Blade.. its a raytracer.. thats what they do. :) traces rays through the scene for each pixel to see what's there etc
Blade_VI: Going to get a dr pepper
back
Clem: left brain is supposed to me analitical while right brain is supposed to be artistic
Danny: About to start a texture room if tis ok with Susan
Blade_VI: whoa!
that's better
hey, I'm like, left and right brained
AuntiAlias: You can be in more than 1 room at a time, you know!!
sure, go for it!
save the log, please! : )
Blade_VI: I took this little test and it says I use both sides equally
FireHeart wants to play too.
Dr. Mojo saunters in.
Dr. Mojo is off to see the Wizard.
Bryguy: do you know your IQ blade
Blade_VI: nope
I took a test on that
but I never recieve my score
Bryguy: hmm mines 154
Dr. Mojo has just entered.
Blade_VI: it was an easy test though
Bryguy: arg. is 120
Danny: I wont say what mine is
AuntiAlias: Mo, you know that you can be in more than 1 room at once, right?
The Bard saunters in.
AuntiAlias: then type control-tab to go between them
Dr. Mojo: These user interfaces confuse me. I'm used to vi.
Blade_VI: mine is up...there... somewhere
*cough cough* up
AuntiAlias: (you can be in up to 5)
Scott: yeah, I know what mine is- but ain't gonna tell anyone ;)
Blade_VI: there
Roednt has joined the party!
Clem: Hey, Mojo, how are you thinking about doctoring the texture editopr?
Danny: LOL Scott
Scott: <g>
Bryguy: oh please tell scott
Caridad has finally arrived.
AuntiAlias: help for this interface: http://www5.metacreations.com/products/bryce4/talk/bt_suppt.cfm
click the image link to see what does what
Blade_VI: it's around 1000 though...lol
Scott: lol- it's a relative metric, IMHO
The Bard slinks out.
Scott: <g>
SpiderFarmer has joined the party!
Blade_VI: my head is just big cause my brain is
Dr. Mojo: I'm thinking of replaceing all the noises, and other esoteric changes. In the end, it would look very much the same, but the guts would all be new.
It could be faster and better--e.g., less aliasing.
Blade_VI: I keep the excessive brain tide around my torso and wrists
Calyxa: that sounds good.
AuntiAlias: Hey! welcome to the Housewarming!
Blade_VI: cuase my head isn't big enough
Clem: Hmm. Sounds interesting
Blade_VI: :)
hey aunti
AuntiAlias: we've got a Q&A session going in another room--it's moderated, so when you go in there, be quiet at first...
SpiderFarmer: wow, what an interesting point at which to enter a conversation.....
Blade_VI: maybe you ought to copy that and and when some one comes in
past!
paste!
Bryguy: ah i see blade half in your head and half in your butt
Clem: Where's the QandA?
AuntiAlias: er... is that necessary?
room list
Blade_VI: LOL!
around my butt
Dr. Mojo: Auntie, some day soon you're going to have to show me how to work these user interfaces. I keep loggin myself off, trying to change rooms...
Bryguy: oh ok around
Scott: Q&A room- if you have a Q, go in and type...
?
Caridad: howdy
Blade_VI: oh
AuntiAlias: Mojo
Blade_VI: we have texans now
Scott: and they'll call you when it's your turn :)
AuntiAlias: and anyone else
Blade_VI: howdy
AuntiAlias: click the top button, that's the room list
Dr. Mojo: Got that...
AuntiAlias: then you double click the name of the room youw ant to enter
Scott: ahh- good call, soosan :)
AuntiAlias: a second number shows up on the left side
you click the number to go back and forth
or
Scott: forgot we're all old hands at this <X>Talk stuff
;-)
AuntiAlias: type control-tab to go back n forth
Caridad: actually... Seattlite
Blade_VI: ???
zman52 has just left.
Dr. Mojo: Thanks! You'll probably see me loggin in again... ;^)
Blade_VI: welcome to the 90's everone
soon to the the 00's
Scott: lol
Dr. Mojo has more important business elsewhere.
Scott: and how do we verbalize that one, Blade?
Bryguy: oh no dooms day aproacheth
Scott: the zeros?
heh
AuntiAlias: someone said that we call next decade the twenty-ots
or oughts
Blade_VI: I wonder if I could switch to a room and say I'm a develper
Dr. Mojo has just entered.
AuntiAlias: twenty ought
Scott: that's a good idea
Blade_VI: wouldn't that have a humours outcome
AuntiAlias: or just the oughts
Scott: donut-one
donut-two
AuntiAlias: gee, I really oughta do that
Dr. Mojo: I'm on my Mac. Contorl tab doesn't do it, Auntie.
Scott: etc..
Blade_VI: I'd be revered by everyone here
AuntiAlias: I gottaQ I oughta
Beartrap has left the building.
AuntiAlias: Mo, how many numbers do you ahve on the left?
if you only have a single number, there's no other room to go to
Dr. Mojo: One. That works okay.
Blade_VI: hail to the Messaih!
AuntiAlias: you need to have two rooms
Blade_VI: nar!
Dr. Mojo disappears in a blinding flash of smoke.
Calyxa: control tab.
Beartrap saunters in.
Jefferson wants to play too.
Gregg has joined the party!
Bryguy: well i need to be getting to bed, bye everyone.
Blade_VI: The entrance and exit message are strange
Pyewacket has just left.
AuntiAlias: : )
Scott: nite, Bry!
Suddenly Dr. Mojo appears.
AuntiAlias: Mo,
Blade_VI: I'm getting disoreiented
Gregg is off to render mirrored spheres.
AuntiAlias: don't leave!
Blade_VI: by them
Scott: Mo's revolving door ;)
Pyewacket saunters in.
Dr. Mojo: yes, Auntie?
Caridad: see ya later pard's... go'in next door
flance disappears in a blinding flash of smoke.
AuntiAlias: top button: room list.
tiger slinks out.
AuntiAlias: NOT the white square, top green button
Dr. Mojo: Got that.
Blade_VI: you know what be awesome?
Bryguy: well ok aunti just a little longer
KathG: I have started to play in DTE
AuntiAlias: and then double click the room name of the room you want to go to
Blade_VI: if you could send images over bryce talk
AuntiAlias: You will still be in this one
Dr. Mojo: I don;t see no stinking green button.
Blade_VI: they should make a patch for that
AuntiAlias: you'll see two numbers on the left
<sigh>
; )
Roednt slinks out.
Blade_VI: I'd like to beable to trade images like that
AuntiAlias: k.. just to the left of the curve of the white title bar... to the left of the word "BryceTalk"
round thing. got lines in it
xochi materializes from thin air.
Dr. Mojo: Got it!
AuntiAlias: go there, see room list
Caridad has more important business elsewhere.
AuntiAlias: double click room
Dr. Mojo: Damn user interfaces.
AuntiAlias: you'll be in two rooms at once
Blade_VI: hey
AuntiAlias: yes, yes, I know... they're just there to muck with your mind
Scott: lol- if only it was just ones and zeros ;)
Blade_VI: whoayou can be in more than one room at once
...
Bryguy: yeah it would be nice to send images. but i think it would really slow down the chat.
Blade_VI: wait a secodn
Dr. Mojo: "How can you be in two places at once, when you're really nowhere at all?"
Blade_VI: geez, I feel slow now
Scott: you got it, Blade :)
AuntiAlias: the magic of UI, Mo!
renato!: lol
Blade_VI: no, not sent them onto chat
AuntiAlias: then, when you have two rooms, then you can do that control-tab trick to visit additional rooms!
Blade_VI: send them to another user over chat
Dr. Mojo: Give me binary or give me death!
renato!: bless your pointed little head
Blade_VI: kinda like you can do in ICG
ICQ
Calyxa: you don't need to send images if you can post their url.
Giles saunters in.
Giles disappears in a blinding flash of smoke.
Blade_VI: I don't trust geocities much
Dr. Mojo: Wow--a short-lived Giles...
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